{"id":93368,"date":"2021-05-07T19:02:32","date_gmt":"2021-05-08T00:02:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/windycityparrot.com\/blog\/?p=18853"},"modified":"2021-05-07T19:02:32","modified_gmt":"2021-05-08T00:02:32","slug":"why-are-my-2-sun-conures-suddenly-fighting-after-15-years","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.windycityparrot.com\/?p=93368","title":{"rendered":"Why Are My 2 Sun Conures Suddenly Fighting After 15 Years?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Cecelia B. writes,<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Hi, Mitch and Catherine,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">I\u2019ve been living with conures for thirty-five years and am seeing behavior that is new to me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"> I have two male Sun conures who are brothers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">They are about fifteen years old.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Until a few weeks ago, they were a very happy bonded couple, mating frequently, grooming and feeding each other, sharing a cage, and getting along just fine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"> One of them, Max, recently started pulling Min\u2019s head feathers out, pecking Min\u2019s head and leaving bloody spots.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"><!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Min now stays as far away as possible from Max and is very withdrawn and fearful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">I don\u2019t blame him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Max has always been the more aggressive of the two.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">He is been friendly with my husband but lately has been dive-bombing him, though not biting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">He has always been a bit aggressive with me, but I\u2019ve learned to avoid situations when he might try to bite me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">We tolerate each other.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">We just started putting them in separate cages at night to protect Min. however, they are flighted birds, so it\u2019s difficult to keep them apart during the day.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We are not leaving them alone in a room when they are out of cages until this is resolved.<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">We also have a male blue-crowned conure, Kiwi, who is very bonded to me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Although the three birds are nearly always in the same rooms at the same time, Kiwi doesn&#8217;t interact much with Min and Max and they don&#8217;t pay much attention to him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Kiwi has been with us for seven years, and that has always been the way they behave.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">No change there.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">I can\u2019t think of any external changes in their lives that could have brought on this behavior change.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">They are eating and drinking normally.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">No new animals, people, or furniture.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">I know this is the season of raging hormones, but for 15 years everything was just fine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Any thoughts on what brought this behavior about at this stage of their lives?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Thanks for giving this some thought.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Cecelia<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Dear Cecelia<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Even the best of birdie friends can get annoyed during the breeding season. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Right now all of the birds are terribly hormonal and it is a struggle to handle them. Our three boys are all acting up and it will be a struggle through April before they start to settle down. <\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">We currently find Barney the cockatiel to be the most problematic of the bunch.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"> He won&#8217;t let us put him in his cage, instead, flying off in huge loops or just eagling up and snapping at fingers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">2 months ago he was fine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">We don&#8217;t want to have to clip him or the others (yet) so we are working around this for a while longer (into May at least).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Last year we posted in a Blog post that Covid is affecting our birds.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">We are home more and are influencing them more and their hormones are showing this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">I saw that you have purchased light bulbs from us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Do you have a light over each cage now?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">As close as possible to the tops of their cages on timers set 12 hours on and 12 hours off? (we do 8:30 am to 8:30 pm).<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">If they tend to spend much of their out-of-cage time on a stand, then there should be lighting over it as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">You can try a Light Treatment on one or both of them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">That would be three days and nights in their cage directly under the light left ON the entire time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">That is 72 hours. This can help by resetting the Circadian Rhythm in their brain.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">It can&#8217;t hurt. Costs nothing. The bird(s) will call out at all hours, but not harm them in any way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">This is a simple and easy thing to try.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Here is an article we wrote on it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\"><a href=\"https:\/\/dev.windycityparrot.com\/blog\/2018\/10\/10\/how-caged-bird-keepers-get-the-lighting-thing-wrong\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How Bird Keepers get the Lighting Thing Wrong<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Just getting them under the lights 12 hr on and 12 hr off you should notice improvements within 30 days. Or try the Light Treatment now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Let me know if it helps.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Regards,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 18pt\">Catherine<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cecelia B. writes, Hi, Mitch and Catherine, I\u2019ve been living with conures for thirty-five years and am seeing behavior that is new to me. I have two male Sun conures who are brothers. They are about fifteen years old. 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